Notes: Genesis 16-17, Job 8

Genesis 16-17Job 8

Bible Narrative Project

Genesis:

I am guilty, like Sarai, of pushing things forward rather than waiting on God. Poor Hagar and poor Ishmael (and poor Abram) would never have had to go through all that conflict with Sarai if she had just waited on God to fulfill his promise.

Circumcision is just one more thing like animal sacrifice that symbolizes the seriousness of being in relationship with God. Ain’t for the faint of heart. Circumcision was like saying “If I am not loyal in faith and obedience to the Lord, may the sword of the Lord cut off me and my offspring as I have cut off my foreskin,” (Zondervan’s NASB Study Bible note, Genesis 17:10).

This passage always makes me think of Muslims and Islam, because they trace back to Ishmael, and their version of the story is different.

Job:

Bildad puts salt on Job’s open wound. He’s even worse than Eliphaz.

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Norris, Gettier, Euthyphro, Hume and Plato: Is knowledge justified true belief?

[ Section on Gettier revised 1/7/11 ]
[ Mention of Euthyphro dilemma as applied to epistemology revised 2/23/11 ]

When deciding whether knowledge is justified, true belief (Plato), a question arises: Is the truth of a belief 1) external to the knower and true whether or not the belief is recognized ‘by’ the knower as justified by the evidence (as realists would say), or is truth 2) internal to and therefore the evidence-based, best opinion of the knower (as anti-realists would say)?

Skeptics and anti-realists would say that if truth is external and evidence-independent, we have no basis to conclude a statement is true (to believe it)—its truth is beyond any knower.  Skeptics and realists would say that if it is internal, it is a fiction—sometimes a statement we thought was justified turns out to have been mistaken (“argument from error”), and sometimes we are right for the wrong reasons (Gettier problem examples, discussed below), so there is not a ‘necessary’ relationship between truth and justification (evidence)—so skeptics conclude truth cannot be known.

Response Dependence theorists try to answer skeptics and resolve the realism/anti-realism conflict by saying that truth is both external and internal—it is the best opinion of the most qualified knower. But is it the best opinion because they are the most qualified, or are they the most qualified because it is the best opinion? That is the Euthyphro Dilemma of truth, which is actually better worded this way: Are we justified in believing because it is true, or is it true because we are justified in believing? Socrates’ original Euthyphro Dilemma applies only to moral truth and can be rephrased: Is God optimally qualified to give his best opinion on the good, or is God optimally qualified to recognize the good when he sees it? It is a dilemma because if the answer is ‘best opinion’ then good is merely a construct, and if the answer is ‘recognize’ it means (setting epistemology aside for the moment) good is over and above him, when there shouldn’t be anything over and above God. This dilemma is resolved by granting that God ‘is’ the good he recognizes. However, returning to epistemology, skeptics about truth in general, if they grant (perhaps for the sake of argument) that God exists, will still insist that if moral truth is not merely an internal construct, then it is external and beyond any knower—even an omniscient one (an argument against omniscience).

Critical Realists answer skeptics and anti-realists (counting RD theorists) by saying that while a statement is true by correspondence (external to the knower), it is justified by the evidence (evaluated and flexibly reevaluated as needed, internally by the knower), and while it is ‘evidently’ (internally) “true” (externally) that sometimes we find out we are wrong (the skeptic’s “argument from error”), we only ‘know’ this because, in order to find out we are wrong, we must find out some other evidence is right (before we knew it was right, so ‘externally’) about an alternative statement that is true (externally) instead of the statement we were wrong about—so skepticism is self-defeating, relying on realist premises: truth can be known, is external to the knower and is evidence-independent. This is the resolution to the Euthyphro Dilemma of truth. Our belief is justified (in that we ought to believe) by the evidence, true by correspondence.

Like Hume’s is-ought fallacy, Gettier’s problem examples (see link in “Sources” below) show that there is not, nor can there be, a necessary relationship between truth (is) and justification (ought). The examples show that just because a belief is true, does not make it justified, and just because a belief is justified, does not make it true, which, if violated, commits Hume’s is-ought/ought-is fallacy. Hume’s is-ought fallacy is prevented from resulting in [moral] skepticism by requiring that knowledge [of a real ought] is belief that is justified by evidence (not by correspondence), and true by correspondence (not by justification/evidence). Although Gettier claimed to undermine the justified-true-belief definition of knowledge, he really only showed that when our belief is not both justified by evidence and true by correspondence, we can be 1) right for the wrong (or no) reasons (where Gettier went wrong was in allowing wrong reasons to count as right reasons, expanded upon here), or 2) wrong despite having right reasons. In the first case, our belief is true, but it is not justified. In the second case, our belief is justified, but it is not true. So, knowledge is when belief is both justified and true—when we are right for all the right reasons. If later we find out we were wrong [that our belief did not correspond, or that we were right for the wrong, or no, reasons], then we were not “knowing” in the first place. We only thought we were. But, now we ‘are’ knowing. We are knowing why we were wrong!

Only the critical realists can answer the skeptics by properly accounting for the progress in scientific knowledge, allowing for truth that is external (and so discoverable, rather than constructed) to the evaluative and reevaluative critical knower. “For to seriously doubt that Boyle was justified (as against Hobbes) when he affirmed the possibility of a vacuum is to undercut the grounds for rational belief in a whole vast range of subsequent developments and causal-explanatory theories,” (Norris, p. 180). Of course this is just one example of progress, among countless others. Plato is still right, despite all these years of progress, that knowledge is belief that is true by correspondence and justified by evidence.

Sources:

Christopher Norris’ “Epistemology”
Edmund Gettier’s “Is justified true belief knowledge?”
http://www.ditext.com/gettier/gettier.html
Socrates’ “Dialogue with Euthyphro”
David Hume’s “A Treatise of Human Nature”
Plato’s “Theaetetus”

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Notes: Genesis 12-15, Job 6-7

Genesis 12-15Job 6-7

Bible Narrative Project

In “Eternity in their Hearts,” Don Richardson talks about the backbone of Christianity, the Abrahamic Covenant, made by God to Abraham 4,000 years ago and recorded in Genesis 12:1-3. Dr. Ralph Winter, director of the United States Center for World Mission in Pasadena, California, explains that everything before Genesis 12 is just introduction and that the main theme does not get underway until God utters “the promise” or “the promises” to Abraham. This theme, this promise, is the backbone of Christianity because it explains the motivation behind everything occurring in this narrative which is now 4,000 years in the making.

Richardson explains that the Great Commission (Matthew 28:18-20; Acts 1:8) is not an after-thought of Jesus, but is a continuation of the Abrahamic Covenant, and that He had been preparing His disciples for it for the length of His ministry.

1. Jesus’ Great Commission of all Christians is rooted in and is a continuance of the Abrahamic Covenant.

Genesis 12:1-3…

The top line: “I will make you into a great nation, and I will bless you; I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing. I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse.” 

The bottom line: “. . .AND ALL PEOPLES ON EARTH WILL BE BLESSED THROUGH YOU.”

Zondervan NASB Study Bible note on vv.2-3: “In various ways and degrees, these promises were reaffirmed to Abram (v.7; 15:5-21; 17:4-8; 18:18-19; 22:17-18), to Isaac (26:2-4), to Jacob (28:13-15; 35:11-12; 46:3) and to Moses (Ex 3:6-8; 6:2-8). The seventh promise (Ichthus: all-peoples) is quoted in Acts 3:25 with reference to Peter’s Jewish listeners (see Acts 3:12)—Abram’s physical descendants—and in Gal 3:8 with reference to Paul’s Gentile listeners—Abram’s spiritual descendants.” 

Richardson muses, “We sense immediately that the God who would speak such words is no petty tribal god. He is a God whose plans are both benign and universal, spanning all ages and cultures. If He retaliates against enemies of Abraham, it is not just to protect Abraham, but also to keep the enemies from extinguishing a fire kindled to warm the whole world!”

Read more: http://ichthus77.blogspot.com/2008/01/abrahamic-covenant-backbone-of-gospel.html

It is interesting that the beginning and end of Abraham’s life sort of parallels the Trinity’s. In the beginning, he goes down to Egypt and then back again, as Jesus (Abraham’s descendant) did when he was born. He is in communication with the angel of the Lord, as was his descendant Jesus during his earthly ministry. In the end, he is prepared to sacrifice his only son, as the Father did his only Son (Abraham’s descendant).

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Notes: Genesis 11, Job 4-5

Genesis 11Job 4-5

Bible Narrative Project

Genesis // The Tower of Babel is just good story-telling. In fact, Genesis 1-11 is just good story-telling, on par with Lord of the Rings and Chronicles of Narnia. Our Bible rocks because it has Genesis 1-11. Something I didn’t notice before is that their city- and name-building was in an effort to keep from being scattered, but that is what happens to them in the end, so the story goes. I think it is awesome that humans have been creative story-tellers and seekers of explanations (and both at the same time) almost since we were first able to communicate.

Job // …and Job’s friends are assumers of explanations. And you know what they say happens when we assume… Anyway. Eliphaz is like those friends who are there for you when the going gets rough, keeping their thoughts about ‘why’ the going is rough until they can just hold it in no longer, and then you get their well-meaning lecture. You’ve lost everything, you mourn it verbally and who could blame you? Your friends. Surely you don’t think you’re blameless and undeserving of suffering–no one is perfect, and the innocent do not suffer. Clearly you have some issue with God, because we all know God makes his followers rich and happy-go-lucky.

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Notes: Genesis 6-10, Job 2:11-3:26

Genesis 6-10Job 2:11-3:26

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Reading to discuss:

How should we interpret the Genesis flood account?

Whether or not one considers the flood global or local, reference to the Nephilim in Numbers was an exaggeration–the spies were just very afraid. Just a case of hyperbole. They even referred to themselves as grasshoppers.

I don’t think Dr. Francis Collins or those who agree with him (like myself) are scoffers.

Galileo was persecuted by the church for showing (well, continuing to show) the earth revolves around the sun (they used the Bible as counter-evidence then, too), but they eventually came around, and we’ll come around about evolution and the flood, too. Perhaps the story is written as if creation happened for six days and the the flood was global, but that does not mean there was a global flood or that creation lasted six days, nor does it necessarily discount the authority of scripture–nor more than ceasing to interpret certain language literally (1 Chronicles 16:30, Psalm 93:1, Psalm 96:10, Psalm 104:5, Ecclesiastes 1:5) undermined the authority of scripture in Galileo’s day, though the church at first thought it did.

Regarding “and also afterward” maybe research the original Hebrew and see if an alternative translation is more likely. Do all the translations read similarly?

Something I find interesting is that the angels (with Satan/adversary) are referred to as “sons of God” both in Genesis and Job. Similar language.

I like that Job’s friends sit there and say nothing for a week…they are just ‘there’ for him (at first, anyway). And I like that there is reality and all-out lament in the Bible. It isn’t pruned of the unpleasant, it isn’t just polite discussion.

Note: Job and Jobab are related words. There is another Jobab in Genesis 36, a king in Edom.

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Notes: Genesis 4-5, Job 2:1-10

Genesis 4-5Job 2:1-10

Bible Narrative Project

Two of my favorite verses in the Bible:

 I love that God reasoned with Cain: “…if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door; and its desire is for you, but you must master it.”

I love Job’s response to his wife: “Shall we indeed accept good from God and not accept adversity?”

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Notes: Genesis 1-3, Job 1

Genesis 1-3Job 1

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Readings to discuss:

How was the Genesis creation story interpreted before Darwin?
What were the Christian responses to Darwin?
How does the Fall fit into evolutionary history? Were Adam and Eve historical figures?
At what point in the evolutionary process did humans attain “the image of God”?
Was there death before the Fall?
more

It is fascinating to read the beginning of Genesis and the whole of Job together…to compare them. Satan (meaning accuser/adversary; the serpent in Genesis) comes up in both of them, up to the same old tricks in both of them. And the humans involved…they always have a choice (freedom is at the center of both narratives–smack dab in the middle of the Garden, even, in Genesis). They both start out “righteous”. Adam and Eve have their fruit and they take it, Job has his cursing…but refuses it (Adam and Job are both badly influenced by their wives, but Job refuses the influence, whereas Adam passes the blame to his wife, who passes the blame to the serpent). Adam and Eve are aware of Satan (the serpent), Job is not. Adam and Eve do not consult God (to which they have access)–Job has a long speech/prayer, though he does not know if God will even answer. And in the end, God speaks to them both, and they both have to live with the consequences of their choices. Adam and Eve chose apart from God and so get separation from him, Job spoke to God throughout his struggle and is restored. And, in the ‘real’ end (there really is only one), Satan loses, either way.

It is fascinating to read the beginning of Genesis and the whole of Job together…to compare them. Satan (meaning accuser/adversary; the serpent in Genesis) comes up in both of them, up to the same old tricks in both of them. And the humans involved…they always have a choice (freedom is at the center of both narratives–smack dab in the middle of the Garden, even, in Genesis). They both start out “righteous”. Adam and Eve have their fruit and they take it, Job has his cursing…but refuses it (Adam and Job are both badly influenced by their wives, but Job refuses the influence, whereas Adam passes the blame to his wife, who passes the blame to the serpent). Adam and Eve are aware of Satan (the serpent), Job is not. Adam and Eve do not consult God (to which they have access)–Job has a long speech/prayer, though he does not know if God will even answer. And in the end, God speaks to them both, and they both have to live with the consequences of their choices. Adam and Eve chose apart from God and so get separation from him, Job spoke to God throughout his struggle and is restored. And, in the ‘real’ end (there really is only one), Satan loses, either way.

Job not occurring until at least the fourth generation after Abraham is kind of hard to determine, and where in the Genesis narrative would it be best to place Job in that light? I couldn’t decide. So I decided to just interweave it w/ all of Genesis. Plus there are the parallels :)

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The Bible as a Narrative

Reposting from December of 2009, to update on new project:
http://biblenarrativeproject.blogspot.com/ Check it out

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Update 1/1/11:  The Bible Narrative Project is complete and the 2011 study began today at the beginning of Genesis and Job and will be working through the Bible narrative chronologically throughout the year (combining parallel passages), finishing up in Revelation, one blog post per day. Read more here.

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UPDATE 3/31/15: The Bible Narrative project has moved here.

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Replacing Agnosticism with Apisticism

This article argues we replace the word “agnosticism” (lack of knowing) with the word “apisticism” (lack of believing) on every belief scale.  The current debate between Myers and Coyne on the
falsifiability of atheism is complicated by a misunderstanding of faith/belief as being necessarily blind, made worse by using the word “agnosticism” (lack of knowing) when the word “apisticism” (lack of believing or lack of faith) would be more appropriate. It is complicated as well by the misunderstanding that all knowledge below certainty implies agnosticism (and equating faith to that, rather than to belief, or equating belief to that ‘and’ faith, rather than allowing for belief/faith to count as knowledge, when both justified and true).

Knowledge is justified, true belief (this goes back to Plato’s Theaetetus). It is belief that is justified by the evidence and true by correspondence. If the belief is only true, then to call it knowledge commits the is-ought fallacy (this goes back to Hume).  If the belief is only justified, then to call it knowledge commits the ought-is fallacy.  [ More here. ]  Genuine faith/belief is strengthened by evidence and weakened by counter-evidence, so there can be varying degrees of belief/faith/subjective certainty (hence, belief “scale”), but the ‘truth’ of the matter is very black and white (law of non-contradiction). A belief is either true or not true, regardless the amount of evidence you have in favor of it or against it, and regardless how subjectively certain you are or how strongly you believe it, which is why it is better to use “apistic/pistic” on a belief scale, rather than “agnostic/gnostic”.

When we use the word agnostic for the middle point between atheism and theism on a belief scale (like Dawkins’ belief scale), we make atheism and theism out to be gnostic positions, and some people wrongly require a gnostic position to be one of ‘certain’ knowledge, either based on evidence (including a lack of evidence, where evidence should not be lacking), or on blind faith. However 1) knowledge results when a belief (no matter how uncertain/certain) is justified by evidence (no matter how slim) and true to reality, and 2) blind faith is bad faith and can never lead to a gnostic position, not being based on any evidence/justification. Richard Dawkins rightly pointed out in “The God Delusion” that beliefs considered “religious” are, like all other claims about reality, not exempt from critical examination (falsification), and only a fideist would claim otherwise. He is wrong that the only alternative to NOMA is that evolution conflicts with any sort of design, however, where he is right implies that atheists who think atheism is not falsifiable (Myers), are ‘implicitly’ fideist.

So, before we can sell the idea that the proper (less confusing) middle way between atheism and theism is not agnosticism, but apisticism, there needs to be some course-correction which would make some atheists feel comfortable admitting they “believe” without making them feel like they are believing in the same way they feel “religious” people believe.  If I were an atheist, this would likely be received better, but–what can I do?  Stop being a theist?  No…so we’ll go with something more rational.  Reason.

Consider that epistemic belief (faith) and knowledge are not necessarily distinct–sometimes believing is also knowing–but knowing is never absolute certainty, for those lacking omniscience. A person who is very uncertain may prefer to claim to believe (have faith) rather than to claim to know. However, one doesn’t need to “know with certainty” in order to know, and a claim to believe (to have faith), is a claim to know. If you believe it (put faith in it being true), you think you know it. An exception is when you believe blindly or have blind faith. Nothing can be proved with absolute certainty (reserved for the omniscient), so all knowledge claims (beliefs) below absolute certainty require faith (lesser degrees of subjective certainty), which, unless blind, requires evidence. Biblical “believing without seeing” (the ‘virtue’ sort of faith) is not believing without evidence (a common misinterpretation)—it is believing the evidence of God’s promise before that promise is fulfilled, in the face of feared consequences like martyrdom. [ This article (expanded upon here) is on ‘atheist’ faith, and links to other faith-related articles. Atheist faith is when you hold on to the belief that there is no god(s) (as I once did), despite the fear and panic that rise up in you during your deconversion (because of what you have been taught about hell, and because of how you fear your believing friends and family will react to your deconversion). ]

Kierkegaard understood the virtue sort of faith to be central, but he was not a fideist the way most people think. He was angered by clergy who focused on evidence (knowing/believing “that” God exists) and never demonstrated saving faith (knowing God “personally” and believing “in” God). That’s why he focused so much on faith. But he wasn’t “against” evidence–he just knew nothing can be proved/known w/ certainty (and that much of Christianity feels like counter-evidence, like the God-man, which seems paradoxical), and that the ‘virtue’ sort of faith (trust “in” God) is where it is at. Scientific leaps in progress are in fact leaps of faith.

A ‘theist’ lacks the belief “No god(s) exist(s)”–they think it is wrong, because they believe (are ‘pistic’ about) the alternative they think is right: “God(s) exist(s)”. An atheist lacks the belief “God(s) exist(s)” because they think it is wrong, they believe (are ‘pistic’ about) the alternative they think is right: “No god(s) exist(s)”. An agnostic (and, again, a better term for that would be apistic) does not believe, either way…defaulting to neither theism [lacking the belief “No god(s) exist(s)”] nor atheism [lacking the belief “God(s) exist(s)”.]

As mentioned in the 115th Philosophers’ Carnival, Sam Harris writes in “The Moral Landscape” that, according to his doctoral research, belief and disbelief both “showed highly localized signal changes in the caudate” (p. 226, note 35)—it’s because disbelief is a manifestation of belief. Similarly, a doubt always implies an alternative belief. If you doubt something, it is because you believe its alternative. This is also why the skeptic’s argument from error is self-defeating (relies on a ‘realist’ premise), because you can only ever find out you were wrong about something, if you are right about the counter-evidence against it.  Disbelief involves belief, and belief involves disbelief. When you say “I don’t believe this” it is because you believe something else (“I don’t believe p, I believe q”). When you say “I believe this” it is to the exclusion of other alternative beliefs (“I believe q, not p”). “I don’t believe either way” is inconclusive in a way that believing and disbelieving are not (“I don’t believe/disbelieve either p or q”). If p is atheism, and q is theism, some atheists claim that p is simply “not q” and that is as true as the claim that q is simply “not p”.  That is why agnosticism defaults neither to atheism nor theism, and why ‘apisticism’ would be a more appropriate term to use, so that we don’t violate the law of non-contradiction by granting contradictory positions the “gnostic” status, based solely on the fact that they make knowledge claims.

It would be more useful to use the word “apistic” instead of agnostic, and “pistic” instead of gnostic (when comparing gnostic w/ apistic/agnostic). Consider that

1) all knowing is believing, but not all believing is knowing,

2) whereas a claim to know (to “be gnostic”) can be wrong, a claim to believe (to “be pistic”) is always right (unless of course they’re lying…some folks answered my poll by saying they strongly believe in unicorns, for example, haha!),

3) the absence of belief (apisticism) is not the same thing as the absence of knowing (agnosticism)…knowing is a special type of believing (justified, true)…though, granted, the ‘gnostic’ (as opposed to agnostic) theist/atheist is currently considered merely gnostic because they make a “claim” to know, not because they necessarily DO ‘know,’

4) belief (faith) can be blind (though it isn’t “necessarily” blind), but knowledge (conscious knowledge, anyway) cannot be blind. People can choose to believe, can “claim” to know, despite counter-evidence (have blind belief, blind faith), but people cannot “actually” know despite counter-evidence (Gettier problem examples), and

5) as stated earlier, there can be varying degrees of belief/faith/subjective certainty (hence the belief “scale”)…but the ‘truth’ of the matter is very black and white (law of non-contradiction).

It would prevent confusion if ‘gnostic’ only meant ‘know’ rather than ‘claiming to know’…which is really just believing. It would prevent confusion if a “believing” atheist/theist wasn’t called a “gnostic” atheist/theist based merely on the fact that they make a knowledge claim. Someone should only ever be called “gnostic” if they do know (if their belief is both justified by evidence, and true by correspondence), not merely because they have “knowledge claims” (which are only guaranteed to be beliefs).

Hopefully the above helps to redeem faith’s (belief ‘s) reputation and frees folks up to honestly admit belief (although, not whilst denying its falsifiability), or to honestly claim apisticism (not atheism, not theism) when they genuinely lack belief. But, preferably, in good faith, they won’t claim anything until they examine the evidence.

Great discussion of this found here on Facebook’s Philosophers + Philosophy.

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Not counting earlier thinking on faith/belief, the following was ignited on Rational Skepticism here and Dan Fincke’s Camels with Hammers here, and combines replies from 1) a question I posted on AskPhilosophers Google group, 2) “Is atheism a belief?” on Greta Christina‘s blog, and 3) “Agnostics or Apistics?” on Dan Fincke’s Camels with Hammers.

Also see: The New, New Theism

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Dawkins, Craig and others debate: "Does the universe have a purpose?"

Matt Ridley, Michael Shermer, Richard Dawkins

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Rabbi David Wolpe, William Lane Craig, Douglas Geivett

@La Ciudad de las Ideas 2010

I was wondering when Dawkins would talk about the science of morality, but he only mentioned it at the very last minute, after the formal debate was already over. I wonder if the theists had the is-ought fallacy in their arsenal, in case he had mentioned the science of morality earlier in the debate? It never came up. Odd.

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